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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159087232" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159087232">(Feb 21 2019 at 17:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we have the meeting later today</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159087237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159087237">(Feb 21 2019 at 17:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me review what <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> added, first</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159091267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159091267">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK I was looking things over and wondering about how to manage the prioritization bit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159091282" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159091282">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe making a spreadsheet or something would let people kind of leav notes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159092072" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159092072">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, so I created a <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ba2G_DUHWGwQBnY1Za-6mJAkIuZST_dakKYN60q9dmM/edit#gid=0" target="_blank" title="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ba2G_DUHWGwQBnY1Za-6mJAkIuZST_dakKYN60q9dmM/edit#gid=0">google spreadsheet</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159092081" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159092081">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I tried to create an entry for the major areas and to kind of break them down a bit:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159092138" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159092138">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:35)</a>:</h4>
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<li>Actionable: Do I see concrete actions we can take under this umbrella (I may try to add comments with some examples). In some cases, some amount of pre-discussion is needed.</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159092308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159092308">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:37)</a>:</h4>
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<li>Team Discussion: Do I think that this needs some discussion with the full team to try and reach consensus? In some cases, I wrote "Yes" because it seemed like that this was the <em>primary</em> thing we needed to do -- but happy to be wrong. In others, I wrote "Some" because I thought it would probably be useful to first draw up a preliminary sort of proposal and then bring it to broader team for comment. (This is sort of roughly true in all cases, but these are areas I anticipate more iteration)</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159092329" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159092329">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:37)</a>:</h4>
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<li>New WG: Is this basically just a proposal for a new WG? (If so, seems kind of out of scope)</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159092407" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159092407">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>Right now, that spreadsheet should be world editable.( I might try to tighten the later.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159092410" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159092410">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>Please feel free to add things that aren't covered</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159092413" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159092413">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>See y'all at 14:00!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159093235" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159093235">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Looks good to me.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159093559" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159093559">(Feb 21 2019 at 18:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Here's a link to the <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-Meta-WG--AYBoR1MKFZkULJlQW1OIe1XhAg-vnEJ2iD7MCc515MW2oR22" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-Meta-WG--AYBoR1MKFZkULJlQW1OIe1XhAg-vnEJ2iD7MCc515MW2oR22">agenda</a> so there's one in this topic.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094311" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094311">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ping <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="202560">@Cem Karan</span> -- these are just names I culled from recent conversations -- Compiler Team Meta meeting starting soon.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094331" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094331">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Clearly, first order of business is creating a Zulip user group</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094367" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094367">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094376" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094376">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me will read passively</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094402" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094402">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>I just created <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1095">@WG-compiler-meta</span> -- I added <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> and myself -- if you want on, write me a privmsg and I'll get to it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094405" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094405">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if Zulip can make those "self-maintainable" somehow</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094450" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094450">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>So, welcome all! =)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094520" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094520">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>As <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> already posted, we have a <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-Meta-WG--AX8YBS96SrgfW02_cqEan75bAg-vnEJ2iD7MCc515MW2oR22" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-Meta-WG--AX8YBS96SrgfW02_cqEan75bAg-vnEJ2iD7MCc515MW2oR22">DropBox paper</a> where we collected some initial thoughts, which I also tried to collate a bit into a <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ba2G_DUHWGwQBnY1Za-6mJAkIuZST_dakKYN60q9dmM/edit#gid=0" target="_blank" title="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ba2G_DUHWGwQBnY1Za-6mJAkIuZST_dakKYN60q9dmM/edit#gid=0">Google spreadsheet</a>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094526" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094526">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me notes that a PR to <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/team/" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/team/">https://github.com/rust-lang/team/</a> adding this WG is probably in order :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094540" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094540">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Heh, that's very germane to one of the topics</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094560" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094560">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Which is the "how to deal with all the sync overhead"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094566" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094566">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>But yes, thanks :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094567" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094567">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
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<li>Clarify the “scope” of the meta working group.<ul>
<li>What problems does the meta working group aim to solve?</li>
<li>What problems do we want to avoid creating? (e.g. bureaucracy, administrative overhead)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Discuss working group “bootstrap process”<ul>
<li>What should each working group define?</li>
<li>What structure should a WG “check-in” have?</li>
<li>Can we produce a “WG Template” that I can then pass around to folks to fill out?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What are the most actionable ideas and can we rank those?</li>
<li>Which ideas would be better suited for more “discussion meetings”?<ul>
<li>Steering meetings? Or should we use those for something else</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094579" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094579">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>That was the rough agenda we had in the paper</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094599" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094599">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I highlighted the "bootstrap process" because it seemed like the most urgent thing for us to discuss, since I think that is kind of what we are aiming to do <em>right now</em> -- get the compiler working groups into a functioning steady state</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094665" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094665">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>But maybe we can start a bit by talking about the "meta working group" (maybe not the best name...) and what exactly its role should be.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094692" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094692">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>(this meta wg is just for t-compiler, right? we have a different for lang?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094744" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094744">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>I had personally imagined it as a place for us to work out the details of what being a working group means, hence the name meta, but I've been wondering if it makes sense to generalize mildly to "governance" -- i.e., to generally take a look at how the compiler team runs itself and try to document and (where necessary) create procedure (but always taking that to the full team for consensus and discussion)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094760" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094760">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> yes I think this is specific to the compiler team, though I sort of want to make a similar effort for lang team, which I would expect to overlap in many ways</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094766" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094766">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>but obviously there are separate concerns in each case</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094848" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094848">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I personally think that the bootstraping process is what this group should concentrate on.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094867" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094867">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>It seems like it's the highest priority regardless</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094879" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094879">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>So, what do working groups always need?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094880" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094880">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Once that seems to be "working" we can certainly decide what to do next</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094899">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Right now we have a kind of tentative list of working groups we came up with at the all hands</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094902" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094902">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>that i've been meaning to write a blog post about ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094903" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094903">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>And can we automate the creation of that (e.g., github, zulip, zoom?, etc.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094910" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094910">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>but which are documented in a dropbox paper ... somewhere</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094957" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094957">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've been working on the assumption that the latter was the purpose of the group - to handle the administrative side of the compiler team where that exists. Of course, number one on that list is the former - working out the details of a working group.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094980" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094980">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Topic-Organizational-Planning-f2C6R3Qic5WSDfEORTW9I" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Topic-Organizational-Planning-f2C6R3Qic5WSDfEORTW9I">Dropbox paper from the Organizational meeting at all hands</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159094985" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159094985">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Actually, just keeping track of what working groups are active should be something that can be automated...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095000">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like we shouldn't get too worked up on automation <em>yet</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095004" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095004">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>though eventually it would definitely be nice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095010" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095010">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>but to start having a list of the things is good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095034" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095034">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Once we know what we want, we can also automate)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095036" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095036">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095047" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095047">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>So I've created this repository, and it seems like an initial thing we can work on is the "template" for a working group in there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095122" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095122">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, maybe we should start by just kind of brainstorming about what the .. questions are to be answered?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095143" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095143">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>We had this in the dropbox paper:</p>
<ul>
<li>Working groups<ul>
<li>What guidelines should exist for working groups?<ul>
<li>e.g. effective meetings, note taking, check-ins at steering meetings, etc.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Directory structure in <code>rust-lang/compiler-team</code> repository<ul>
<li><code>index.md</code> and some other files already exist</li>
<li>Do we want more than this?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Assessing progress<ul>
<li>Can we encourage working groups to set goals as part of their regular triage?</li>
<li>Goal: Leave check-in meeting feeling energized with clear ideas of next steps.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095186" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095186">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I had the following questions trying to come from the perspective of a prospective contributor looking to find out more:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>What working groups are available? What is working group X doing? Where can I find a working group? Who is in a working group? Are there meetings? Do I need to attend? Do I need any prior experience? Are there resources that would help me get up to speed? Are there labels on the issues for this working group? Who is leading the working group? What working groups might start in future? How can I register my interest in them?</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095197" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095197">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think another good question would be one of membership -- do we want to maintain lists of members? On what basis? etc. It may be something a WG can answer for itself, but it seems like we should have a default. Personally, I would like that to be someting that people can sign <em>themselves</em> up for</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095273" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095273">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, ok, that's a helpful way to look at it. Another thing I"ve been thinking about, which gets at <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="202560">@Cem Karan</span>'s question about automatiion, too:</p>
<p>What do WG members need to "do their job"?</p>
<p>For example, I think it is useful if we can assign issues to you, so you have to  a member of the github org. I think you would want to be part of the Zulip User Group. Maybe some other things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095294" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095294">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Membership will likely depend on the purpose of the particular WG; I'm not sure if a one-size-fits-all policy would work there.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095318" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095318">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm creating a section <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-Meta-WG--AX8YBS96SrgfW02_cqEan75bAg-vnEJ2iD7MCc515MW2oR22" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-Meta-WG--AX8YBS96SrgfW02_cqEan75bAg-vnEJ2iD7MCc515MW2oR22">at the end of the paper</a> to take a few notes and try to cull down into .. a set of deliverables, things to decide?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095336" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095336">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Membership will likely depend on the purpose of the particular WG; I'm not sure if a one-size-fits-all policy would work there.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Maybe. Regardless, I think we should have a default policy.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095337" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095337">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>NLL had a stream here, GitHub group, Zulip user group and some GitHub labels but not really much else that I can remember?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095345" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095345">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I suspect it will work better than you think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095353" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095353">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>If membership should be <em>limited</em>, I think it will limit itself naturally</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095399" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095399">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Regardless, I don't care to make rules, just helpful defaults</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095418" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095418">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>NLL had a stream here, GitHub group, Zulip user group and some GitHub labels but not really much else that I can remember?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Seems right.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095424" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095424">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Got it, helpful defaults are good!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095426" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095426">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Issue labels are important</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095441" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095441">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Regardless, I don't care to make rules, just helpful defaults</p>
</blockquote>
<p>That framing is good, useful also for T-Lang!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095510" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095510">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>So, on the topic of GitHub Labels</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095518" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095518">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>NLL had <code>WG-nll-foo</code> stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095522" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095522">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't know there is much meaning to being a member of a working group. Being in the GitHub group was only to be able to get assigned to issues and, like the Zulip group, get pinged about new issues and the like.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095527" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095527">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>we also had <code>A-nll</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095530" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095530">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>it was confusing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095596" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095596">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I don't know there is much meaning to membership of a working group. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>yeah so this is why I don't want to harp on it too much. I've found it is often very "fluid" -- people are involved for a bit, then have other things to do. Some folks stick around a lot, and that's fine.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095620" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095620">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>Should we generally do <code>A-wg-foo</code> or something? What is the role of this label :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095632" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095632">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess it will depend a bit on the WG</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095636" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095636">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe just saying "WG can define labels" is fine for now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095639" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095639">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it'd be useful for WGs to document the labels they are using</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095713" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095713">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> feels like there's a distinction in purpose... A- labels are for areas, e.g. the release team will assign these as a matter of triage... whereas e.g. <code>T-compiler</code> and <code>I-nominated</code> say that X are working on things and X is important to the group</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095750" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095750">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>A-nll is sorta like A-inference or A-closure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095759" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095759">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I had the following questions trying to come from the perspective of a prospective contributor looking to find out more:</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Coming back to these questions, some of them seem to be things a <em>working group</em> can do, but others are basically part of our own infrastructure and how well we advertise it, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095790" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095790">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>A-nll is sorta like A-inference or A-closure</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yeah, so A-foo is for "part of the code", and sometimes that aligns with the WG, but sometimes not</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095799" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095799">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is that what you mean?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095802" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095802">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>A working group could probably just specify labels that represent the areas they focus on - eg. <code>A-traits</code>, <code>A-NLL</code>, <code>A-const-eval</code> - and they can create other labels around that to help them categorize or prioritize. As long as they are listed, I don't think we should be too prescriptive but just provide some guidelines.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095911">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>So take a look at e.g. the <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/blob/master/working-groups/traits/README.md" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/blob/master/working-groups/traits/README.md">Traits README</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095914" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095914">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>How do they create new labels that make it easy to match to known working groups? <code>A-trait-foo</code>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095916" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095916">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> ok, but that needs to be communicated clearly to the release-team then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095930" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095930">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>(er, wait, let's finish up w/ labels maybe)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095940" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095940">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>things oftentimes have many A- labels too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095972" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095972">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure what needs to be communicated to the release team <em>exactly</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159095979" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159095979">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>Though I do think that some things probably do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096005" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096005">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>  the release team does issue triage and labels things <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096014" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096014">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>Especially if there are triage concerns, it would be helpful to have a standard way to bring something to the attention of a WG</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096017" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096017">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096025" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096025">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> ok, but that needs to be communicated clearly to the release-team then</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I'm not suggesting that a working group create any new <code>A-</code> labels just that they can list the existing <code>A-</code> labels that best describe the parts of the compiler they are focusing on. Any new labels are things like <code>NLL-*</code> that only have meaning to the working group and are outside of the existing <code>A-</code> labels that have a meaning.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096086" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096086">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>Got it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096093" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096093">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>So e.g. suppose there is some regression that relates to a new traits feature or whatever</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096098" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096098">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span>  oh... I got the impression that each wg would get their own label</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096106" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096106">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I imagine that release team would tag this with suitable A-labels (<code>A-traits</code>) as well as <code>T-compiler</code> and the regression labels</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096129" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096129">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>We could certainly "route" it to the working group as part of the normal compiler team triage meeting, if they don't notice it themselves earlier</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096155" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096155">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>You could also imagine some other technique</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096166" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096166">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>  something like that yeah; but other labels could easily apply too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096168">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span>  oh... I got the impression that each wg would get their own label</p>
</blockquote>
<p>You could, but I don't think it would be strictly necessarily - I imagine that most working groups could pick a existing <code>A-</code> label that would just be what they care about.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096169" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096169">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>like A-typesystem</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096170" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096170">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>My concern with each WG having a label is that .. well, it seemed annoying for NLL somehow, but maybe it was ok. There was always uncertainty about A-nll vs WG-nll</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096236" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096236">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>we had to have specific searches to kind of catch "union of things tagged A-nll and WG-nll"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096241" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096241">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Anyway, maybe this is in the weeds.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096242">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the only new labels a working group would need would be the equivalent of the <code>NLL-*</code> labels that help with their own triage.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096257" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096257">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>It feels important but also like something I don't want to spend entire meeting discussing :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096304" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096304">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, I'm sort of inclined to say that WGs should pick and list some A labels that they are monitoring for now. If there are GH teams too, then release can also cc said teams (though this just goes into a GH notification blackhole for me, but that's a separate problem)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096316" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096316">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>It seemed to work ok for NLL that way tho</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096390" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096390">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>(though this just goes into a GH notification blackhole for me, but that's a separate problem)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think eddyb told me you watch the repo for all the issues and PRs... don't... do that :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096403" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096403">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't do that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096410" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096410">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>It seems like unresolved questions surrounding working groups come from one of two places - processes and practices involved in running a working group; and information that is desirable by prospective contributors.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096413" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096413">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I <em>try</em> to at least look at notifications with <code>@nikomatsakis</code> in them, but even that is really hard for me to do.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096442">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah. So one thing I specifically want todo this week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096446" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096446">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>is to go to each of the prospective WGs we have planned</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096450" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096450">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>find and identify leads</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096453" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096453">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think I've seen the first category of questions enumerated quite as much as the second category.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096455" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096455">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>and have them fill out some template</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096476" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096476">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>so one thing I would sort of find useful is agreeing on what said templaet should be :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096546" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096546">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I sort of imagine that the "what WGs find useful" is also something we can kind of work on a <em>bit</em> as we go, i.e., learning from questions and problems that arise -- though we have some experience already)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096595" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096595">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess the question is whether there is info that would be useful which is not on e.g. <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/tree/master/working-groups/rls-2.0" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/tree/master/working-groups/rls-2.0">this README</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096598" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096598">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21/near/159095186" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21/near/159095186">questions I listed previously</a> would form the basis for most of the template's questions?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096657">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry, something very important come up and I'm just arriving will read the log quickly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096702" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096702">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>(added question about labeling to release team's agenda for next wednesday)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096712" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096712">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>The list <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> added earlier:</p>
<p>## Team level</p>
<ul>
<li>What working groups are available?</li>
<li>What working groups might start in future?</li>
<li>How can I register my interest in them?</li>
</ul>
<p>## WG level</p>
<ul>
<li>What is working group X doing?</li>
<li>Where can I find a working group?</li>
<li>Who is in a working group?</li>
<li>Are there meetings?</li>
<li>Do I need to attend?</li>
<li>Do I need any prior experience?</li>
<li>Are there resources that would help me get up to speed?</li>
<li>Are there labels on the issues for this working group?</li>
<li>Who is leading the working group?</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096754" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096754">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>The team level ones are things that seem like they are not part of the template but rather across wgs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096780" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096780">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that README is 90% of the way there. But it would be helpful to have a smaller summary too - i.e. a table with all the active working groups and that information for them.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096822">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Of the WG Level:</p>
<p>"Who is in a working group" is not answered really, but as we said, maybe we don't even <em>want</em> to answer it. But having at least some <em>leads</em> would be good.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096862" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096862">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like it'd be ok to have more than leads, maybe a list like "Contact @so-and-so"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096907" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096907">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Of the WG Level:</p>
<p>"Who is in a working group" is not answered really, but as we said, maybe we don't even <em>want</em> to answer it. But having at least some <em>leads</em> would be good.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>At this point, I'm leaning toward the idea that not having any sort of membership would be better. Define the leads of a working group and have a way for people to subscribe to relevant groups and notifications but otherwise there's no formal membership.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096922" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096922">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>which can be updated periodically</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096942" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096942">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>so what I think I <em>do</em> want</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096946" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096946">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>is some way for people to "register themselves"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096955" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096955">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically subscribing, yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096958">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure how to achieve that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096969" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096969">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>it does feel like a place where automation is warranted though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096992" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096992">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>The only benefits to membership I can see are:</p>
<ul>
<li>Give the WG lead a list of people to assign work too.</li>
<li>Recognize regular participants in the WG in some way.</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159096994" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159096994">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> I remember there being talk of adopting e.g. a bot that let people leave comments to assign labels and things, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097016" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097016">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep, and also to sort of assign themselves to issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097019" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097019">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> ye, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/triagebot" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/triagebot">https://github.com/rust-lang/triagebot</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097026" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097026">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>(hi!)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097029" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097029">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> I remember there being talk of adopting e.g. a bot that let people leave comments to assign labels and things, right?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Zulip has a bot that adds people to a "contributors" group in their GitHub org and assigns them.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097033" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097033">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> seems right, the second one in particular being the thing I was most interested in</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097099" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097099">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>So <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> / <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> can that bot add people to the GH org?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097118" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097118">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>no, for security reasons we would prefer not to do that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097139" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097139">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>instead assigning the bot itself as a placeholder if the person is not on the org</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097163">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097169" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097169">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>that doesn't seem good enough</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097174" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097174">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> seems right, the second one in particular being the thing I was most interested in</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This is somewhat watered down if anyone can just click a button to register their interest and become a member (as much as that is desirable in its own way).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097177" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097177">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g., if you'd like to be cc'd</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097206">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> right, I am giving up on that goal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097222" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097222">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically I think I would rather 'recognize' regular people through journeyperson role</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097224" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097224">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, that's not for WG members</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097243">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>the bot is more for people seeing an E-easy issue and wanting to fix it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097246" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097246">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> do you mean "the bot is not meant for that"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097249" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097249">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097250" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097250">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, seems fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097308">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>WGs can be managed with github and the team repo as usual</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097313" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097313">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span>  does everyone who can assign also have push rights?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097320" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097320">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>WGs can be managed with github and the team repo as usual</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I don't know what this means</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097321" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097321">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> yep, that's the problem</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097346" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097346">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>@centril yep, that's the problem</p>
</blockquote>
<p>but why... <span aria-label="scream" class="emoji emoji-1f631" role="img" title="scream">:scream:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097364" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097364">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>we're sort of trying to define what the "as usual" even is...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097374" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097374">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> adding people to the github team and to the rust-lang/team repo</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097412" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097412">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>hopefully in the near future adding them to the team repo will also add them to the org</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097443" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097443">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span>  we could register people in a list manually and cc them each by username</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097453" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097453">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wanted people to be able to add themselves</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097456" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097456">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>thereby not needing write access</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097458" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097458">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>in part because it's tedious and annoying</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097470" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097470">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe it's not so important</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097472" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097472">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, we can let people add themselves through a bot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097531" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097531">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> It is tedious and annoying, but it does slow down bad actors a little.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097536" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097536">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I still don't like it from a perms point of view</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097545" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097545">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>WGs can be managed with github and the team repo as usual</p>
</blockquote>
<p>In this scenario, someone would register their interest in a working group and then get a entry in the <code>rust-lang/team</code> repo so that they appear in that GitHub group (for the purpose of notifications)? Since we want a really easy way to let people get notified and subscribe themselves to a working group (a lightweight membership), this would end up with the "everyone is in the repo, security risk" scenario we want to avoid?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097554" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097554">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>@triagebot wg-add t-compiler/wg-traits</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097556" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097556">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we can pressure GH to let people make assignments</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097560" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097560">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>without <em>write</em> perms</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097573" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097573">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>you really need write perms to be assigned?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097576" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097576">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I've just enumerated the exact conversation that happened while I was typing. <span aria-label="face palm" class="emoji emoji-1f926" role="img" title="face palm">:face_palm:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097595" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097595">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097611" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097611">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>github <em>shrugs</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097615" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097615">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>  you need write perms to label stuff too... <span aria-label="confused" class="emoji emoji-1f615" role="img" title="confused">:confused:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097626" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097626">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't care so much about labels</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097628" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097628">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>you can have a bot that adjusts labels</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097649" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097649">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>but yes, that'd be ncie</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097655" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097655">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's sort of secondary</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097664" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097664">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> we can fake assignments by saying "Assigned to: @XYZ" in the top post of an issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097682" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097682">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, we could do that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097686" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097686">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's less nice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097689" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097689">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>it doesn't show up in the issue listing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097734" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097734">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it may be "good enough"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097745" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097745">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>often, you are mostly just looking for "unassigned things"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097748" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097748">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>that could be fixed by assigning the bot itself</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097749" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097749">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097755" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097755">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>I could certainly live with that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097768" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097768">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>who knows a lot of people @ github?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097799" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097799">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I know</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097814" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097814">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>We can assign people without giving them write permissions, for the record</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097816" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097816">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I suppose we'd need to find a good way to notify a group of people too if we want to avoid adding everyone with an interest to the org?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097827" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097827">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>They only need read permissions to be <em>assigned</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097847" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097847">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, TIL</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097867" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097867">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>(basically they need to be in the org)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097878">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>that seems to change .. everything?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097883" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097883">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>that seems to change .. everything?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think so.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097888" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097888">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., we could have a bot that lets you get added to some group</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097938" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097938">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>with read perms</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097957" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097957">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> sure about that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097959" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097959">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>so you can be targetd when somebody does <code>@wg-foo</code> and you can be assigned</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097973" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097973">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> 99% yeah, I think I've done it with a temp account</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159097997" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159097997">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like this is what I remember too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098018" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098018">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> would you be willing to test this out?  Just to make 100% sure?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098022" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098022">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>You just can't assign yourself if you don't have write permissions (but the bot can do it for you)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098048" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098048">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span>  can you ask GH to make it possible to label issues w/o write access? :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098053" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098053">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can't assign my bot account to a github issue on rust-lang/rust</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098057" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098057">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>and it is on the org</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098076" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098076">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, enough on this, let's follow up later</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098077">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least not from the UI</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098085" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098085">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>or spin it out into a distinct topic ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098087" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098087">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span>  can you ask GH to make it possible to label issues w/o write access? :P</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098113" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098113">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>they may not listen ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098114" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098114">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>So to summarize:</p>
<p>We want to avoid any sort of formal membership to a working group. Instead a wg has leads and interested folk can subscribe to it to receive notifications on GitHub issues and in Zulip.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098163">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>or they probably already know and for some reason is not a priority</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098170" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098170">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>I will follow up after some more testing tonight/this weekend</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098174" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098174">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's what usually happens</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098190">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> add to release agenda?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098275" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098275">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm looking back at our agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098287" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098287">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Discuss working group “bootstrap process”<ul>
<li>What should each working group define?</li>
<li>What structure should a WG “check-in” have?</li>
<li>Can we produce a “WG Template” that I can then pass around to folks to fill out?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What are the most actionable ideas and can we rank those?</li>
<li>Which ideas would be better suited for more “discussion meetings”?<ul>
<li>Steering meetings? Or should we use those for something else</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098391" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098391">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we've mostly worked out what we'd need to flesh out a wg template and then start some of them?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098397" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098397">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel... sort of like we've concluded that the WG template I had is pretty good, but we're missing:</p>
<ul>
<li>a table of working groups </li>
<li>it needs to list leads</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098427" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098427">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah. Something I was thinking about while we were talking also is that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098438" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098438">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would sort of like to produce a "guide to leading a WG"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098448" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098448">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe I will try to dump out my current thoughts on this as a starting point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098466" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098466">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically like "how to run an effective meeting" etc -- now if only I knew the answer :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098469" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098469">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I think that the table of working groups will need to be generated automatically to keep it up to date.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098477" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098477">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I would sort of like to produce a "guide to leading a WG"</p>
</blockquote>
<p>In the rustc-guide or the compiler-team repo?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098487" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098487">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>unclear</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098495" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098495">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>One of the things that we haven't discussed yet is how to wind-down a working group</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098500" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098500">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry to jump in but I've been skimming</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098503" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098503">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I think that the table of working groups will need to be generated automatically to keep it up to date.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Working groups won't change that much that this will be necessary, IMO.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098515" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098515">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I think that the table of working groups will need to be generated automatically to keep it up to date.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes, I was thinking that the compiler-team repo should probably build into a gh-pages repository</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098526" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098526">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>However, I think we can start with a manually updated table</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098530" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098530">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>an item similar to "Who is leading the working group?" is "who is the member who acts as liason with T-compiler"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098547">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Interesting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098552" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098552">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I agree</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098601" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098601">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>basically like "how to run an effective meeting" etc -- now if only I knew the answer :P</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think the most important thing is what do you need to do to lead</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098608" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098608">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>or rather ... "similar to" as in "these two are often identical, perhaps"; but in case they are not identical, the person organizing the WG-checkin (presumably me, for now) needs to know who the main liason is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098629" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098629">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah; it seems similar to "who should I ping on zulip" -- which might be a fairly broad set of folks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098638" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098638">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe the template should have something like "contact points"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098641" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098641">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>well part of my hope was that it would <em>not</em> be broad</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098644">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>or rather ... "similar to" as in "these two are often identical, perhaps"; but in case they are not identical, the person organizing the WG-checkin needs to know who the main liason is</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This might be something that we could get away with being "the leads of the wg, unless specified otherwise (special cases)".</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098646" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098646">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>and it can have more or less detail</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098647" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098647">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I want someone to <del>blame</del> take responsbility for presenting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098669" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098669">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>well part of my hope was that it would <em>not</em> be broad</p>
</blockquote>
<p>well, my point was more like "if I have questions, who might like to answer them", which is distinct from "compiler team liason"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098774" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098774">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I sort of suspect though that the latter is just "go to the right stream and post something"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098779" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098779">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's two side of the things, wg members that need something from the leads and the guide <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> was talking about may help leads to know what they are supposed to do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098784" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098784">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>and those folks will answer ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098801" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098801">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Right, that's what I meant <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> -- a kind of "guide to leading a WG"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098808">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098821" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098821">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's very important</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098822">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>The only other unresolved question I've seen asked here was <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="202560">@Cem Karan</span>'s "how to wind down a wg".</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098864" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098864">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>And I'm inclined to think we can cross that bridge when we come to it? I guess the main thing is what happens to the stream, GitHub group, labels, etc.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098984" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098984">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098987" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098987">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>we are sort of "doing it" with NLL now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159098992" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159098992">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>but we're not there yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099036" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099036">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>I prob have to run, this was a good meeting y'all -- I was hoping to leave with some more "action item" like things, but don't know that I know <em>quite</em> what they are yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099050" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099050">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am interested in distributing some of this organizational work around</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099056" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099056">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess a clera one is:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099063" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099063">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>can somebody make a "template" for WGs?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099072" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099072">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>can somebody make a "template" for WGs?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I'm happy to work on this.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099077">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>based on the existing files, but perhaps comb the logs and add a few things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099082" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099082">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span> !</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099180" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099180">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am wondering -- does anybody here love jekyll hacking? :P Or something..I'd like to try and convert the compiler-team repository into something that builds into a GitHub pages</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099184" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099184">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> I can help with that too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099199" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099199">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>this way we could do things like automate the table of working groups etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099203" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099203">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>fairly easily</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099230" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099230">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>that might be another "concrete goal" for this group to work on, though lower in priority</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099238" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099238">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>this way we could do things like automate the table of working groups etc</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The table will still need manually updated, whether it is rendered by GitHub as a readme or on a Jekyll page?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099348" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099348">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess the next step after a template is to work out what the working groups will be and who will lead them?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Cem Karan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099366">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>Can Jekyll be hacked to look through all of the organizations repos?  If each WG had it's own repo with certain files in place at the root, then this can be semi-automated (e.g., WG.json at the root, with some schema)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099368" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099368">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess the automation you might want is to be able to run a command to add somebody and then make a commit and call it a day?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099372" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099372">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I guess the next step after a template is to work out what the working groups will be and who will lead them?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Building on the discussions from the All Hands.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099471" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099471">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I guess the automation you might want is to be able to run a command to add somebody and then make a commit and call it a day?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I'm not sure who would be being added. We will probably have something like this for the GitHub groups and stuff like that. But the actual working group listing itself will only mention the leads (presumably) and that sort of information won't change all that much.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099614" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099614">(Feb 21 2019 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah sorry, I got it wrong, anyway, unsure if Jekyll is really needed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159099722" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159099722">(Feb 21 2019 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>My understanding is that automation will be used to allow people to subscribe themselves to a working group so they can get notifications. But the readme discussing what the working group does, where they meet, etc and the list of active working groups will change so infrequently that I think automation of that wouldn't be worthwhile. Just my 2c.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159104794" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159104794">(Feb 21 2019 at 21:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="202560">@Cem Karan</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> -- I added you to the <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1095">@WG-compiler-meta</span> user group. (Did you want to be added, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span>?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159104808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159104808">(Feb 21 2019 at 21:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1095">@WG-compiler-meta</span>, I realize we didn't say explicitly? Should we have another meeting next week, same time, same place?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159104826" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159104826">(Feb 21 2019 at 21:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to assume yes. I made the calendar event repeat.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.21/near/159104829" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E21.html#159104829">(Feb 21 2019 at 21:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>why not, mostly for the infra around memberships</p>



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